DER BEGRIFF DER MANIA IN PLATONS PHAIDROS. W. J. VERDENIUS. Published Online: | DOI: . Plato’s Phaedrus E. Heitsch: Platon Phaidros. (Platon, Werke, Übersetzung und Kommentar, III4.) Pp. Göttingen: Vandenhoek und Ruprecht, DM

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Volume 1 Issue 2 Janpp. Other souls, while straining to keep up, are unable to rise, and in plaron, sweaty discord they leave uninitiated, not having seen reality. Beauty, he states, was among the most radiant things to see beyond heaven, and on earth it sparkles through vision, the clearest of our senses.

Socrates retorts that he is still in awe, and claims to be able to make an even better speech than Lysias on the same subject. The desire to take pleasure in beauty, reinforced by the kindred beauty in human bodies, is called Eros. The non-lover, he concludes, will do none of this, always ruled by judgment rather than desire for pleasure. As such, the philosopher uses writing “for plaon sake of amusing himself” and other similar things rather than for teaching others.

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Divine madness in turn takes different forms: Setup an account with your affiliations in order to access phaidroos via your University’s proxy server Configure custom proxy use this if your affiliation does not provide a proxy. That is the reason why I have never written anything about these things, and why there is not and will not be any lhaidros work of Plato’s own oud’ estin sungramma Platonos ouden oud’ estai.


And yet, they agree, the art of making these divisions is dialecticnot rhetoric, and it must be seen what part of rhetoric may have been left out.

Sign in to use this feature. There is an echo of this point of view in Plato’s Seventh Epistle Letterwherein Plato says not to write down things of importance. Bodily objects moved from the outside have no soul, while those that move from within have a soul.

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All Search Options [ view abbreviations ]. Volume 30 Issue Janpp. A respectful treatment of one another is important to us. Volume 93 Issue 3 Seppp. Complete Worksed. This rather bold claim has puzzled readers and scholars of Plato’s work for centuries because it clearly shows that Socrates saw genuine value in the irrational elements of human life, despite many other dialogues that show him arguing that one phzidros pursue beauty and that wisdom is the most beautiful thing of all.

The pederastic relationships common to ancient Greek life are also at the fore of this dialogue. He explains that it is best to give your favor to one who can best return it, rather than one who needs it most. Volume 56 Issue 1 Janpp.

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It should be noted that Phaedrus is Plato’s only dialogue that shows Socrates outside the city of Athens, out in the country. Moreover, one must have an idea of what is good or bad for the soul and, as a result, know what the soul should be persuaded towards.


This is the fourth sort of madness, that of love. Phaedrus gives in and agrees to perform Lysias’ speech. The recent initiates, phaifros the other hand, are overcome when they see a bodily form that has captured true beauty well, and their wings begin to grow. Volume 49 Issue 1 Janplatoj.

They ignore human concerns and are drawn towards the divine. He begins by briefly proving the immortality of the soul. Full search options are on the right side and top of the page.

View text chunked by: The dialogue, somewhat unusually, does not set itself as a re-telling of the day’s events. A lover’s friendship is divine, Socrates concludes, while that of a non-lover offers only cheap, human dividends, and tosses the soul about on earth for 9, years. Apology Memorabilia Oeconomicus Symposium. Yet Socrates does not dismiss the art of speechmaking.

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Volume 26 Issue 2 Janpp. To get caught in phaodros shameful would be like letting down his lover, therefore the boy is consistently acting his best. To learn more about the use of cookies, please read our privacy policy.